Now, what I can tell you is this… The fire did NOT start in the Casa Rosso! The fire started next to it… in the Caballah. Now, it was like this… There was a tunnel between the two clubs; a secret tunnel. And from there the fire came to Casa Rosso. Because the BIG BOSS… he lived above er… the Casa Rosso. So there… there came the fire! Through the secret tunnel, from Caballah to Casa Rosso. Yes… And I was outside… which is here… Here where we stand now. And every day this guy was standing over on the other side of the ‘gracht…’ the canal. And he waited there… every day he waited there for his girlfriend. ’Cause she was working in the club. And uh… So every day he was standing there, to pick up his woman. And on that night, you know… on that night he came in a car. Then he stopped before er… before the Caballah. Then he came with the gas-… gasoline in his hands… and a gun. So he went in and poured the gasoline so… And then it made fire! Shooting into the gasoline. And then the whole entrance was on fire. ONE MINUTE! And not only on fire… Also SMOKE! Smoke everywhere. Because… because all the walls… everything was a bit er… luxury. Like curtains and um… everything was soft and er… And of course the alarms went off… And all the people inside thought it was a robbery… They went behind the chairs and under the tables. But yeah… On that night the BIG BOSS… Joop de Vries. He was in Switzerland. And when he came back, he… the boss said: “Because people died here, I’ll never make anything here again!” And he went mad, you know… And didn’t want to talk about the fire anymore! And… you see this here…? This was the sign, before the fire. It was the logo. And he also stopped using this logo… ’cause he said: “The elephant cannot stop the fire!”. And so, the whole place… the whole business went down. And after that the boss never showed himself again…